This may help you, and the OP -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRMiUtscrHw, [–]Sweaty_PenguinWeightlifting 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children), And your telling me his "knees stay behind the toes". It appears to shift to over my toes at the bottom of the lift. I'd say you are leaning a bit too forward. In addition, an excessive forward lean can increase the sheer force of your low and mid … My gym partner told me today after noticing me struggle to get down to that point that 'my knees are going too far past my toes and that is not good load control'. This will reduce the effective length of your femurs and keep you upright. No Threads That Are Answered by the Wiki, Searching Threads, or Google, Posts Must Be Specific to Physical Fitness and Promote Useful Discussion, Progress Posts Must Be Detailed and Useful, No Questions Related to Injury, Pain, or Any Medical Topic. Thanks—if I can't correct it with the advice I received today, that will probably be my next step. I feel like your 295# set looked a lot more segmented in terms of joint movement versus your 185# deload. Focus on this and with practice it'll get better. ), Not leaning forward at all - this isn't proper form and nearly impossible for a back squat, Squeezing glutes on lift up (this is actually probably beneficial), More ankle and hip flexibility (probably beneficial as well, but not sure how to do that yet! [–]mHo2Powerlifting[S] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). I'm thinking the remedy for that is to practice before/after my main sets with light weight making sure i've got ideal form. I appreciate everyone who's taken the time to offer advice. Honestly, it could be a lot of things. Trump was leaning forward in this same style while greeting Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during his visit to the White House on 11 October 2017. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. fatcat669 Green Belt. [–]phrakture❇ Special Snowflake ❇ 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (4 children). In my opinion, the starting reps on that 185# set looked pretty good - to be nitpicky, extend your hips more at the end of each rep to get a more upright posture. Front squats looked fine to me, obviously it's hard to see much with just the bar. Sometimes, when an athlete lacks ankle mobility, they end up leaning their torso too far forward in order to achieve squat depth under the bar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRMiUtscrHw, https://www.nsca.com/Education/Articles/Barbell-Squats--High-vs--Low-Bar-Position/. Squats work lower back. Currently wearing chucks with no heel lifts [–]matthewjpb 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). I hope this is the right sub, but here goes: Also, a big old breathe of air to help keep your core tight. Try the 5s first. Show Printable Version; 10-12-2007, 08:13 PM #1. pmb. – Coaching . Bending your knees first will cause you to learn forward more to compensate for balance. Although I do try and keep my chest up. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > BreezerD** Banned Banned. [–]Infinite_NightRunning[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (4 children). Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. June 4, 2018, 7:09pm #1. The Bulgarian Split Squat is simultaneously one of the best and worst drills ever created. Check the EDIT/update in the main post. I think you're right. my subreddits. You’ll tend to bend your knees to compensate. [–]theycallmewhiterhino 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children). Find communities you're interested in, and become part of an online community! It looked a lot like a good morning, especially on that first rep [ie. So I've come to realise that I lean WAY too far forward in the squat. … JeffseekingV Member Posts: 3,225 Member Member Posts: 3,225 Member. It’s great because it’s arguably the single best exercise for improving single-leg strength and stability in addition to offering a variety of mobility, hypertrophy, balance, and proprioceptive benefits. There’s going to be a forward lean in the squat; most people won’t stay completely upright. * is this too far forward? For the most part I feel my form is fairly on point (i'm doing mainly highbar back squats) but I can't help but feel like i'm leaning too far forward by just looking at my form. If you have good hip abduction, you can take a wider stance and really push your knees out far. Squat Leaning Forward. For high bar, you want to minimize the lean for other reasons, like reducing the moment arm for the load. [–]Infinite_NightRunning[S] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZewrzojlMQ, What i'm getting from this is to change my footing and opening up my legs on the way down, [–]buohuang 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). You could also try taking a wider stance and angling your toes outward. Check out the attached videos and tell me what you think? [–]Impervious_Lifter 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children), https://www.facebook.com/Impervious.Lifter/posts/759918127393941 Are there any other techniques or cues you'd suggest? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UxXPgBSkds, [–]buohuang 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children). [–]phrakture❇ Special Snowflake ❇ 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). But if the bar is not the dominant component of the system - as a rule of thumb, if you weigh more than it - the combined COM might be significantly behind the bar. [–]YJM 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child). Looks more like a low bar squat to be honest. [–]mHo2Powerlifting[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children). Rendered by PID 2948 on r2-app-001b21b77206b7dd6 at 2020-12-21 01:25:39.283369+00:00 running 406fa40 country code: US. But recently, the last … Thanks for the advice. The authors grouped them into three groups. The bar should be on a fixed in the horizontal direction and only should be moving vertically, [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children). popular-all-random-users | AskReddit-news-tifu-funny-todayilearned-pics-aww-worldnews-personalfinance-Jokes-gaming-videos-science-OldSchoolCool-television-movies-mildlyinteresting-explainlikeimfive -Showerthoughts-gifs-TwoXChromosomes-LifeProTips-space-askscience-IAmA-Art … That is really it. There are a good amount of different things that can cause this issue, and it can't be pinpointed unless someone can see. Some people in this sub said they felt it helped a lot to walk on a treadmill at a very steep incline while keeping your feet flat as a form of dynamic stretching for your ankles, [–]Infinite_NightRunning[S] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children). That or increase my glute strength, [–]TheBlackDahliaMurderPowerlifting 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children). yeah, maybe you are leaning too far forward -- but then again it could be an issue of keeping a tight mid-section]. I am not sure why that is the case. How do I correct this? And I lean badly. View Profile View Forum Posts Member Join Date Oct 2007 Posts 1. I've been considering learning them at some point; this would be a great time. It could be weak quads and abs. Also if you haven't already, look up Alan Thrall on Youtube. In addition, getting a better low-bar position on my back helped tremendously. Using 5lb plates under my feet. Practice with either the bar or do air squats until you get it down packed. That's an excellent idea. I recommend hips first because it is more natural for the body to stay upright that way, but it depends on what works for each person. [–]BraveryDaveOlympic Weightlifting 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children). Breaking with my hips (I feel like i'm gonna fall forward! Leaning too far forward on a highbar squat? I'm gonna try widening my stance along with a few other things, [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), I don't think that you can tell really from a pic. Some lifters suggest that you can try a wider squat stance and see if that makes any difference. What helps me is every time i squat i do mental imagery of myself (and the bar) going vertically down and then everything else about my form ends up being correct. This puts a lot of strain on the lower back, and also takes your quads out of the latter part of the lift. If it's at any weight, it's most likely a flexibility issues. So it makes sense that they would fix that imbalance. I've noticed my knees are starting to collapse inward a bit too which I think I'll have to practice during my third-world squats. * Can I work a correction into my routine and get out of this if it's bad or should i spend a few weeks solely practicing form at low weight? That'll force you to use your heels more. Hey, thanks for saying that! I thought the first paragraph was alright. [–]phrakture❇ Special Snowflake ❇ 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (7 children). However, when the client is leaning so far forward that they face the ground, making the exercise look more like a good morning, it must be addressed. Its more likely that your core strength is lacking, and that you can't maintain a stable spine when your hips hinge. GREAT video series! Reddit gives you the best of the internet in one place. In this case, when the system is balanced, the bar will be forward somewhat, and this is OK. Now there are a few ways this can be worked around. I don't understand the whole high and low bar squat thing? They bring the full package – they can make you strong, huge AND athletic. Leaning a bit forward is part of a proper squat. “B” group consisted of people with a squat ranked in the top 10, and “C” group consisted of people with a squat ranked outside the top 10. if you pretend to squat in front of a mirror, if you bend at the hips first as well as lean forward you'll see that the bar moves forward: this = good morning on the way up. It feels like I'l fall backwards if I don't lean. The problem is, squats are rarely beautiful. While the video focuses primarily on strengthening exercises, it is also important to spend time performing static stretches of the calf and hip flexor muscle groups. If your knees are out more than your toes you are leaning too much forward. Make sure your hips are going back first, in the video you're bending your knees first then the hips. * if it is, how can i correct this? Leaning too far forward. No Threads That Are Answered by the Wiki, Searching Threads, or Google, Posts Must Be Specific to Physical Fitness and Promote Useful Discussion, Progress Posts Must Be Detailed and Useful, No Questions Related to Injury, Pain, or Any Medical Topic. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child). Im not meaning to sound like a dick but your knees will track over your knees on Low Bar. Welcome to r/Fitness! [–]GravityIsForWimpsGeneral Fitness 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child). The further forward you lean with a squat, the more extreme pressure you place on the knees, whereas when you have your lower leg closer to a vertical position, your knee has better leverage and is in a good position to support you. experiment to find what works best for your body. Pretend like you are trying to spread carpet underneath you. The exercises presented in this video can be utilized as corrective strategies for the excessive forward flexion during the squat. A Low Bar squat can be a lot more demanding than a deadlift, because that parallel position causes interplay with the psoas and the hamstrings that fight against your core. Do you suggest I should try breaking at the hips first during the descent? Rep Power: 857. leaning too far forward is usually a result of when your core starts to struggle with the weight your doing, or lots of quad dominance (which is basically when the weight feels extremely heavy and you forget about form and just want to get it up so you rely on your instincts which is relying on your quads). EDIT: Also sorry about the weird angle. As far as I can tell, the bar starts over my midfoot (it looks like it’s near the front of my tibia). This seems more of a band aid measure than actually fixing the problem. I don't feel unstable or anything, but I want to correct this. In both … basically the point is you want the bar's path to be vertical. More specifically, if you're a long legged dude with a short torso, this can tend to happen. Dec 9, 2020 #3 william bad butt said: Depends on goals. [–]mHo2Powerlifting[S] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (1 child). Thanks all for your insightful responses. Click Here for a one-stop shop of our most important resources. I'm not able to get to parallel before I start to move the chest towards the knees. [–]mHo2Powerlifting[S] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), Could be it. This is the correct low bar form, break at hips first then knees, hips go back. It started to look a lot more segmented (aka good morning-esque) near the end of the set however. Conclusion. Agree to disagree bud. Would placing a low-to-moderate weight on the barbell and just maintaining the squat position help to get me used to balancing further back? During the squat the client may start to lean too far forward. [–]Infinite_NightRunning[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). If you bend at hips, but don't bend at knees after, you'll also lean forward - bad. It can. That sounds like a good cue. Finally if you feel like this only occurs when you hit heavy weights, take it down a notch for two weeks and practice the corrected motor movement. Because if you're squatting less than you weigh, and you're not losing balance, this is actually normal. breaking at the hips is bad if it causes you to learn forward. If you're constantly worrying about your sticking point and expecting it to be there, it always will. [–]DiscipleofGrohl 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child). I suspect I'm not bracing my core well enough; I'll work on that, thank you. I've deloaded so many times on my squat because of inconstant depth (i wear Olympics shoes), i've hit depth a ton much more recently and looking over my videos and the factor i've realized is how far my knees go forward. Goblet squats teach you to hold your chest high and your core tight throughout the whole squat movement. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: General Posting Guidelines (click for more info): and join one of thousands of communities. As far as I can tell, the bar starts over my midfoot (it looks like it’s near the front of my tibia). A short and sweet guide on how to stop any forward leaning on your squats. This happens to most lifters at one time or another. 2 - Hips are tight My weight was over my toes, not the middle of my foot, at the bottom of the lift. That's another problem, though it's slight and I'm hoping if I can sit into a better position it will be easier to rise straight up. I'm reluctant to post videos publicly, though that will probably be the next step. It could be improper bracing/not staying tight during the lift. Hi, I’ve been getting criticism from buddies in my gym that I bend too far forward during my ascent when I squat. Nope, using chucks Joined: Oct 20, 2008 Messages: 1,679 Likes Received: 0 Location: An island far southwest of the USA. My questions are as follows: The knees are too far forwward as well. Not only is this really uncomfortable and tough on my joints, but if I squat with heavy weights like this, I’m going to fall forward. December 7, 2019. Try a heel raise. If you don’t, you’ll … Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. 1. [–]gideonngPowerlifting 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child), [–]BrightlingerPowerlifting | r/Fitness MVP 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child). I don't mean the bar moving forward during the lift, i mean the position of my torso with regards to my knees, feet and hips. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (7 children). WITH THAT SAID, during the lift I am performing one smooth movement and not a jerky good morning (though on a heavy set this can happen). Keep doing goblets once in a while too to reinforce that good form. I also suggested the possibility of hip mobility issues; that is, he can't squat as deep as he'd like to and therefore bends more at the torso to achieve "pseudo"-depth. The self shot was for a good reference of m torso to leg length, check it out and let me know what you think! Hi guys, complete novice here.. 0. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: General Posting Guidelines (click for more info): and join one of thousands of communities. if you break at the knees and immediately follow with hips down, the motion is pretty identical to breaking at the hips and knees driving you down after. Keeping your heels down during the squat—and especially “driving” through your heels as you ascend—is crucial for recruiting your posterior chain during the movement. Squats are hands down my favorite exercise. I'll try it, thanks. Leaning too far forward in squats... help? Post by Oscar_Actuary » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:16 am I'm a real newb with back squats. It could be that you're just forcing weights that are too heavy for you. If are squatting more than you weigh and/or are losing balance, you can disregard this. It appears to shift to over my toes at the bottom of the lift. Physiologically they have to, if they didnt you would fall on your ass. When you correct it, your squat strength is so much better. You might be compensating for lack of ankle flexibility by sticking your ass out more. It could be flexibility/mobility issues. I find it tricky to get the depth at all if I try to keep more upright. [–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child). Are you wearing oly shoes? Just don't forget the theory and your form will be ok. [–]buohuang 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children), basically, this video will help you figure out whats best for you. I'd strongly suggest that is the issue. If so, this may indicate that you are leaning too far forward (potentially from a weak core or too-heavy load) or using a stance that is too narrow for your body. Do some front squats man. There's already some reasonably good advice in here, but no one will be able to tell you without seeing a video. Sure thing, 5lb weights under the foot or 2.5lb? Could also be core stability - can't keep upright under the weight with the hips bent, so compensates by shifting weight back. Welcome to r/Fitness! Perhaps fatigue? Maintaining a vertical bar path would only place a constraint on horizontal movement of the upper back, where the bar rests. I know that it is important to go down in squats until your thighs are parallel to the floor. [–]Infinite_NightRunning[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children). bsal1. Am nearly 6’5”, so flexibility is a problem for me…have made reasonable progress with the legs, but seem to be stuck on my overhead squat. I can't tell what's up with those videos, but your torso angle looks a bit large, yes. I weigh 137 pounds; my maximum squat is 170×5. I'm a bit too cheap and not advanced enough in this sport to consider squat shoes. I try to record subtly so I don't look like a douche bag, or creep people out. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. I haven't filmed any warmup sets, but I just reset weight down 10% today and it's still pronounced. Leaning Too Far Forward. I deloaded and worked on my hip and ankle mobility. Click Here for a one-stop shop of our most important resources. This should help you with the second one, [–]MitchSorrenstein 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). [–]Infinite_NightRunning[S] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children). That aside, make sure your going down onto your heels and that you keep your glutes tight and pushed in throughout the lift. I'd need to see a video to really be helpful. I am weak. 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